Comments on: Flex and remoting with PHP, which library is the best: Zend AMF, AMFPHP, WebORB for PHP, or SabreAMF? http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/ Flex, AIR and Rock&Roll Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:49:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Thomas Tourlourat http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/comment-page-1/#comment-8671 Thomas Tourlourat Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:55:13 +0000 http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/#comment-8671 Where do you see a good documentation for WebOrb on PHP ? Actually, documentations exists for Java and .Net but not for PHP version. Where do you see a good documentation for WebOrb on PHP ?

Actually, documentations exists for Java and .Net but not for PHP version.

]]> By: Wordpress + Flash + Integration = ??? « Pixellovin http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/comment-page-1/#comment-8442 Wordpress + Flash + Integration = ??? « Pixellovin Sat, 23 Jan 2010 00:31:57 +0000 http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/#comment-8442 [...] Flex and remoting with PHP, which library is the best http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-we... [...] [...] Flex and remoting with PHP, which library is the best http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-we... [...]

]]> By: leef http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/comment-page-1/#comment-8267 leef Mon, 04 Jan 2010 19:17:13 +0000 http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/#comment-8267 Mark posted a patch that brings ZendAMF's serialization-time on par with AMFPHP http://framework.zend.com/issues/browse/ZF-7493 Mark posted a patch that brings ZendAMF’s serialization-time on par with AMFPHP

http://framework.zend.com/issues/browse/ZF-7493

]]> By: wei http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/comment-page-1/#comment-8208 wei Thu, 31 Dec 2009 06:46:20 +0000 http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/#comment-8208 Finally, I found the article, the best one which could provide the most information about the 4 libraries. Thank u so much;) Finally, I found the article, the best one which could provide the most information about the 4 libraries. Thank u so much;)

]]> By: Mihai Corlan http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/comment-page-1/#comment-7597 Mihai Corlan Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:20:29 +0000 http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/#comment-7597 @Bart The same goes for ZendAMF; you just dump on the server the ZendAMF files. @Bart

The same goes for ZendAMF; you just dump on the server the ZendAMF files.

]]> By: Bart http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/comment-page-1/#comment-7594 Bart Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:29:48 +0000 http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/#comment-7594 But can you install zend-amf as easily as amf-php Like for example if you don't have the knowledge to install extra php modules/packages/extensions amf-php can be installed just by uploading some files by ftp and it works. I wonder how it goes for zend-amf But can you install zend-amf as easily as amf-php

Like for example if you don’t have the knowledge to install extra php modules/packages/extensions

amf-php can be installed just by uploading some files by ftp and it works. I wonder how it goes for zend-amf

]]> By: Omar Gonzalez http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/comment-page-1/#comment-7533 Omar Gonzalez Mon, 23 Nov 2009 04:10:51 +0000 http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/#comment-7533 Service browser for Zend Amf services at http://www.zamfbrowser.org Just added Code Generation today! :) Service browser for Zend Amf services at http://www.zamfbrowser.org

Just added Code Generation today! :)

]]> By: Geoffrey McRae http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/comment-page-1/#comment-7418 Geoffrey McRae Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:37:45 +0000 http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/#comment-7418 I have had nothing but problems with AMFPHP on large projects, especially when dealing with ByteArrays. Corrupted streams, poor char conversions that do not deal properly with 16bit chars. It performs well, but these problems are show stoppers. It is also no longer maintained as far as I can tell. WebOrb is bloated with too much crap and has a very steep learning curve. Adobe has worked with Zend to create Zend_AMF, and it works flawlessly, and its object model is beautiful. You don't have to use the entire Zend framework, you can just grab the AMF library separately. I have had nothing but problems with AMFPHP on large projects, especially when dealing with ByteArrays. Corrupted streams, poor char conversions that do not deal properly with 16bit chars. It performs well, but these problems are show stoppers. It is also no longer maintained as far as I can tell.

WebOrb is bloated with too much crap and has a very steep learning curve.

Adobe has worked with Zend to create Zend_AMF, and it works flawlessly, and its object model is beautiful. You don’t have to use the entire Zend framework, you can just grab the AMF library separately.

]]> By: Matt http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/comment-page-1/#comment-7292 Matt Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:39:25 +0000 http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/#comment-7292 I recently developed a large application with AMFPHP, it is extremely easy to use however it does lack some features which the documentation says are there. After some digging through the code the features are there just disabled. This is a minor inconvencince than anything else, as for performance I didn't get a chance to use any of the others but we didn't have any problems with it being slow as far as I am aware. It is adequate for most development's needs if a little messy. I recently developed a large application with AMFPHP, it is extremely easy to use however it does lack some features which the documentation says are there. After some digging through the code the features are there just disabled. This is a minor inconvencince than anything else, as for performance I didn’t get a chance to use any of the others but we didn’t have any problems with it being slow as far as I am aware. It is adequate for most development’s needs if a little messy.

]]> By: leef http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/comment-page-1/#comment-6765 leef Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:01:04 +0000 http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/#comment-6765 For whatever reason, ZendAMF has a 5x slower response time than AMFPHP http://gfxcomplex.com/video/zend-amf-vs-amph_amfphp-ftw/ For whatever reason, ZendAMF has a 5x slower response time than AMFPHP

http://gfxcomplex.com/video/zend-amf-vs-amph_amfphp-ftw/

]]> By: David Pesta http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/comment-page-1/#comment-6370 David Pesta Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:21:49 +0000 http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/#comment-6370 Patrick Mineault built most of AMFPHP, then retired from the flash world to get into neuroscience and he handed the project over to Wade Arnold. Then Wade Arnold abandoned AMFPHP in order to build Zend AMF. Patrick Mineault built most of AMFPHP, then retired from the flash world to get into neuroscience and he handed the project over to Wade Arnold. Then Wade Arnold abandoned AMFPHP in order to build Zend AMF.

]]> By: Mihai Corlan http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/comment-page-1/#comment-6369 Mihai Corlan Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:56:49 +0000 http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/#comment-6369 @Xeress The same developer (Wade Arnold) who takes care of AMFPHP implemented the Zend AMF too. @Xeress

The same developer (Wade Arnold) who takes care of AMFPHP implemented the Zend AMF too.

]]> By: Xeress http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/comment-page-1/#comment-6366 Xeress Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:39:19 +0000 http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/#comment-6366 AmfPHP is a joke. I use it for 2 years no, but with my php 5.3 it breaks. Developer doesn't seems to live anymore, and the bugs are everywhere. I had to fix a couple on my own to get it working correctly. Anyway, zend misses a good service browser (witch i very like like in AmfPHP) but has the cleanest implementation. WebOrb is nice and very good maintained. Although it didn't worked as fast as AmfPHP. I'm sticking with Zend just because of it's clean coding style. (and performance on a webserver isn't really an issue anyway). AmfPHP is a joke. I use it for 2 years no, but with my php 5.3 it breaks. Developer doesn’t seems to live anymore, and the bugs are everywhere. I had to fix a couple on my own to get it working correctly.

Anyway, zend misses a good service browser (witch i very like like in AmfPHP) but has the cleanest implementation.

WebOrb is nice and very good maintained. Although it didn’t worked as fast as AmfPHP. I’m sticking with Zend just because of it’s clean coding style. (and performance on a webserver isn’t really an issue anyway).

]]> By: dan http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/comment-page-1/#comment-5432 dan Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:07:09 +0000 http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/#comment-5432 Another ZendAMF vs AMF: http://gfxcomplex.com/video/zend-amf-vs-amph_amfphp-ftw/ Another ZendAMF vs AMF:
http://gfxcomplex.com/video/zend-amf-vs-amph_amfphp-ftw/

]]> By: Alex Petrescu http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/comment-page-1/#comment-3953 Alex Petrescu Sat, 02 May 2009 17:55:36 +0000 http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/#comment-3953 For another PHP Socket Server + AS3 library and demo projects... check out the code I wrote at: http://www.kilometer0.com/socket_server.php I'll also be uploading some code into this project that helps you tie together Flex, Zend AMF, and CakePHP (much like AMFPHP used to for Cake). I'm also building a Flex based service browser for it. http://code.google.com/p/flexiblecake/ For another PHP Socket Server + AS3 library and demo projects… check out the code I wrote at: http://www.kilometer0.com/socket_server.php

I’ll also be uploading some code into this project that helps you tie together Flex, Zend AMF, and CakePHP (much like AMFPHP used to for Cake). I’m also building a Flex based service browser for it.
http://code.google.com/p/flexiblecake/

]]> By: David Pesta http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/comment-page-1/#comment-3445 David Pesta Wed, 22 Apr 2009 00:00:12 +0000 http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/#comment-3445 Here is another very interesting find: http://flashmog.net 100% PHP 2-way Open Socket server for Flash apps! A first on the internet as far as I can find after many hours of searching. I haven't had the time to get this working yet, but if FlashMOG is all that it is cracked up to be, someone ought to start making a lot of noise and get people involved in this project. It looks like a very well developed site with very low feedback on their forums. A totally undiscovered gem on the internet by the looks of it. Here is another very interesting find: http://flashmog.net

100% PHP 2-way Open Socket server for Flash apps!

A first on the internet as far as I can find after many hours of searching.

I haven’t had the time to get this working yet, but if FlashMOG is all that it is cracked up to be, someone ought to start making a lot of noise and get people involved in this project. It looks like a very well developed site with very low feedback on their forums. A totally undiscovered gem on the internet by the looks of it.

]]> By: Mihai Corlan http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/comment-page-1/#comment-3422 Mihai Corlan Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:25:49 +0000 http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/#comment-3422 @David Pesta Thanks a lot for the link :) From my point of view, it would be nice to have this extension as part of the PHP default installation. And to have some new PHP native functions/objects to work with it. @David Pesta

Thanks a lot for the link :)

From my point of view, it would be nice to have this extension as part of the PHP default installation. And to have some new PHP native functions/objects to work with it.

]]> By: David Pesta http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/comment-page-1/#comment-3406 David Pesta Tue, 21 Apr 2009 11:00:34 +0000 http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/#comment-3406 The C Encoding Extension mentioned above is called AMFEXT and has been maintained as late as July 2008: http://www.teslacore.it/wiki/index.php?title=AMFEXT Patrick Mineault mentioned in my previous post was a major developer of AMFPHP and has a thorough benchmark showing the impressive speed gains (the link above in my previous post). The latest version of this extension was even included in XAMPP, and it works for me without a hiccup. The C Encoding Extension mentioned above is called AMFEXT and has been maintained as late as July 2008:
http://www.teslacore.it/wiki/index.php?title=AMFEXT

Patrick Mineault mentioned in my previous post was a major developer of AMFPHP and has a thorough benchmark showing the impressive speed gains (the link above in my previous post).

The latest version of this extension was even included in XAMPP, and it works for me without a hiccup.

]]> By: David Pesta http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/comment-page-1/#comment-3405 David Pesta Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:40:17 +0000 http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/#comment-3405 If performance is one of the top criteria, then you probably never came across the C Encoding Extension for AMFPHP which makes it "50 to 100" times faster, according to Patrick Mineault: http://www.5etdemi.com/blog/archives/2007/01/amfphp-19-beta-2-ridiculously-faster/ That extension came out two years ago, but has been obscured and buried unless you look for it. Wade Arnold's goal is to get this extension built into Zend AMF (successor to AMFPHP), but seemed to indicate this hasn't been done yet. So, that makes AMFPHP significantly faster than Zend AMF for the time being. If performance is one of the top criteria, then you probably never came across the C Encoding Extension for AMFPHP which makes it “50 to 100″ times faster, according to Patrick Mineault:
http://www.5etdemi.com/blog/archives/2007/01/amfphp-19-beta-2-ridiculously-faster/

That extension came out two years ago, but has been obscured and buried unless you look for it.

Wade Arnold’s goal is to get this extension built into Zend AMF (successor to AMFPHP), but seemed to indicate this hasn’t been done yet. So, that makes AMFPHP significantly faster than Zend AMF for the time being.

]]> By: Mihai Corlan http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/comment-page-1/#comment-2882 Mihai Corlan Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:37:28 +0000 http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/#comment-2882 @Sumit Arora Check WebORB for PHP. They have support for messaging and data management, thought I didn't try. @Sumit Arora

Check WebORB for PHP. They have support for messaging and data management, thought I didn’t try.

]]> By: Sumit Arora http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/comment-page-1/#comment-2881 Sumit Arora Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:34:31 +0000 http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/#comment-2881 Hi can we use Datamgt services as in LCDS and Blaze DS in any one of them ? If not how to use them in PHP ? Hi can we use Datamgt services as in LCDS and Blaze DS in any one of them ?
If not how to use them in PHP ?

]]> By: Jon http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/comment-page-1/#comment-2726 Jon Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:10:14 +0000 http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/#comment-2726 How interesting....I seach for the best amf library and this topic comes up on the day it was published! For me its AMFPHP; much easier to get up and running, very simple to operate, service browser, lightweight. The others all seem to have some level of obfuscation that doesnt really add much value. How interesting….I seach for the best amf library and this topic comes up on the day it was published!

For me its AMFPHP; much easier to get up and running, very simple to operate, service browser, lightweight. The others all seem to have some level of obfuscation that doesnt really add much value.

]]> By: Sean http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/comment-page-1/#comment-2724 Sean Tue, 31 Mar 2009 06:51:42 +0000 http://corlan.org/2009/03/31/flex-and-remoting-with-php-which-library-is-the-best-zend-amf-amfphp-weborb-for-php-or-sabreamf/#comment-2724 AMFPHP by far AMFPHP by far

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